If smooth yet authoritative describes the style of small stream rod you are looking for then the Garrison 193, 6’9” 4wt. leading up to Garrison’s re-opening in early 2021. I have my idea but I would like to hear what others have to say. If you all ever get the chance to cast Jerry Foster's experiment series, you should. Garrison 215 Garrison 221 Price including rod sock, and tube is $800.00. Also, as a tool, you can "test fit" a customer to figure out what that individual likes best and "customize" the rod to them. Significantly changing the maximum stress and/or shifting the location/extent  of it would have to make a difference. In the 7 foot model there is the 201. For your consideration is a completely original Everett Garrison presentation rod with a rather incredible history and a well-documented provenance. Posted to list sometime back...Bob (ps. Your forms are going to cry when you set them for the MOD! By chance, it turns out that these devices are a perfect fit for secure remote browsing. ↳   Information About Makers and Manufacturers, ↳   Appraisals & Identification of Bamboo Fly Rods. We eliminate threats by transforming everything into a guaranteed safe format. Restaurant is currently closed due to the pandemic and will re-open later this year. I own a 198,(tweaked 193) 206e and a 209e and am in love with how these rods cast. Some said you would feel every point flex where the taper went from a large change to a small one, sometimes we refer to this as a flex point. The bottom line is that YOU CAN feel the difference between the rods, though some differences are very subtle. Length (Feet): 6’9” Length (Inches): 81” Pieces: When looking at the various taper libraries it sometimes states 'allowance for varnish NO' in which case do I take say 2 thou: off all the dimension. But would not all those hills and valleys possibly be a source for secondary vibrations? Rarely seen impregnated finish on this rod. 75    270                    270 You need to make significant overall changes to make a big change in feel. Crisp dry fly action. (Stephen Dugmore). I believe that with all the hinges built in, at the point you begin to muscle in the cast, there’s going to be a difference felt only because you’re casting what vaguely resembles the links on a chain. Our Mission is to provide our customers with the greatest selection and availability of any store with fair prices and excellent customer service. Look at Waynes 6322 and 6032; Dickerson's 8062; Doug Easton's 9063 Quad and Gallus 9083, these are all examples of sharp changes. The Garrison State is a concept first introduced in a seminal, highly influential and cited 1941 article originally published in the American Journal of Sociology by political scientist and sociologist Harold Lasswell.It was a "developmental construct" that outlined the possibility of a political-military elite composed of "specialists in violence" in a modern state. My own copy is serial number 003, the oldest of my rods that I still own. 3. Steve Dugmore asked me what my thoughts are. Could a taper like this transfer power from the caster to the line as effectively as something smoother? I can see that volume of cane, weight, and weight distribution should average out the same. The Blank is a 12 foot blank. (Reed Guice), I built the two tips for a Garrison 212 and it was just as I thought, I can't tell the difference in casting or on static deflection on the wall. One rod has a turnover point at 5" the other is further back. Change the taper scenario slightly making 5% adjustments instead of 5 thousandths. I charted the taper, and as you know, a snake would break it's back trying to follow the line. Vintage Taper Bamboo Blanks Bamboo Rods Books Fiberglass Blanks Fiberglass Rods Flies & Lures Fly Boxes Fly Lines ... Garrison #193 Bamboo Blank. I'm just putting this out as something as something to think about. This board is for discussing concerns of fishing bamboo fly rods. (Chris Obuchowski). I've got to imagine that having several soft spots in the rod is going to be felt. Also comes with a nickel silver ferrule plug and original hang tag. ... Garrison #193 Bamboo Blank. Garrison & Garrison trusts American Standard Products. Not just feel, but actually put a description too beyond the usual 'faster, slower'. CONTACT INFO. The company became a subsidiary of Gibson in 2007, but its plant was closed in 2010. and one of the very last I would consider parting with. (John Channer), Just walking back to the shop I also thought that when it comes to questions about feel, it’s important to remember that like sight and sound, everybody is different. Everyone has developed those senses quite differently. a flat stress curve, which deviates upward only over 5", over 10", over 15", over 20", I think they were). Everett Garrison Rods; 193: 201: 201E: 202E: 204E: 206: 209: 209E: 212: 212E: 215: 221 I basically only use it for midge and trico type of fishing. Construction: Hex. model 201, 7’ 4wt. I really don't know and I would like to. A 5 thousandths deviation is a 5% change at station ten and 2% at station 65 producing an average of 3%. Garrison is a city in Nacogdoches County, Texas, United States. Of interest is that the ‘snaky’ taper does have a higher maximum stress (at the 20” mark) than the ‘smoother’ one. Garrison 193 taper. With Jerry's rods I found that 5" wasn't to my liking. I do not believe an inverse adjustment is enough to fully offset the weak point created by the hinge. How significantly it might change is another matter, of course. A wonderful taper. Garrison 209E. Garrison 193. I get the feeling that the shoulders in Bob’s experiment might well provide enough support to the hinges, effectively smoothing the whole thing out. Bamboo Tips - Tips Area Garrison Database Our Garrison database covers: Buildings: browse buildings by image, and see all related items, achievements, quests, and more on building pages as well as their costs and work order totals My program also indicates the same deflection. Garrison 209. Original bag and tube. Garrison 193. Garrison 212E. In this case, I can't help but think that one or more of those hinges will work at a given load, and change the feel. (Stephen Dugmore). During its existence, Garrison manufactured electric and acoustic guitars. I'd leave the taper alone, it's great in the right circumstance. by brookstalker » 03/04/07 10:02, Post 35    156                    151 (Tom Smithwick), After looking at the tapers I'd like to add that I think the difference would be significant ( to me anyway). Dwarven Bunker / War Mill: Weapons and Armor Sets There are six sets available from the Dwarven Bunker / War Mill.Two are cosmetic, meaning any armor type can use it, and the remaining for sets are BoA so you can send them to alts! There were lots of other rare rods not for casting, and some other cool stuff. Contact me through the EZ inbox if you are interested. The taper is a bit slower feeling than the other Garrisons, but it is not wimpy or tricky to cast. Bob’s experiment doesn’t quite do that. I agree with Al. Garrison 202E. For sale here is a near mint condition Douglas Duck Model 193 bamboo rod - 6'9 2/2 for a 4 weight. Garrison 193 . Our Mission is to provide our customers with the greatest selection and availability of any store with fair prices and excellent customer service. My question is to the people who has cast, & fishes with this taper. 6′9″ long 2 piece/2 tips 3 weight, flamed and heat-treated. I think I'd be able to feel this change when cast 10 - 20 feet of line. by yakstone » 03/05/07 07:00, Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited. Garrison SAVI ® technology is a simple concept that takes advantage of the incredible power of the Arm devices that power the world’s mobile phones and tablets. Garrison SAVI ® uses two Arm chips working as a pair. It's a small water rod. 60    219                    224 Not that I can prove any of that, but it is an interesting mental exercise, Bob. A sweet rod indeed!) The Taper is Listed in Gould’s Book Tips and Tapers. So I accept that it would likely deflect the same as the original. I have no proof of this, just the many hours looking at rod taper deflections and trying to see taper changes I had built into the rods. Garrison definition is - a military post; especially : a permanent military installation. 50    193                    198 From Air Conditioners to Air Handlers, we stand behind this line for efficiency and durabilty. It is an 8' 2/2 model 212 built and presented in 1941 to a member of the venerable Wyandanch Club in Long Island. and one of the very last I would consider parting with. ↳   Rod makers history, value guide and general discussion, ↳   Link to Orvis Database by Greg Reynolds, ↳   Link to EC Powell's Mechanics of fly casting. 65    233                    229 Varnish already deducted. Nice tight fit, Super Z type nickle silver ferrules, vintage style Agate Gun Smoke Hard Wire stripper guide. (Ren Monllor), I've long felt (with no proof or justification) that it takes a pretty significant change to make a difference that the average caster can describe. I reckon there will be very little difference in the feel, if any. If I get the chance to build one of each I will let you know what I find out. (Bamboo speak 6' 9" staggered ferruled/Thomas taper/4-5 weight. (Bob Norwood). The safety of our customers and staff is our #1 priority. Hi Brookstalker, I've built and fished two. If you build them and find they are the same, it goes to prove what I’ve thought: a few thousandths tweak here or there is averaged out and hardly matters. My deflection program says they should feel identical. Seller Notes: “ Brand New Fly Rod Beautiful Flamed Garrison 201E taper 7'3wt Maple Engraved sliding band seat and cap\Aluminum, gorgeous seat, 2 tips. Jay Edwards. All of this becomes integral in your ultimate quest to advance your character, and you’ll be returning to your Garrison frequently to further your goal of prote… It is a true midge rod, and starts to slow down with bushy dry flys over size 16. I believe the rod will favor the weakest links if the offsetting adjustments are proportional. The population was 895 at the 2010 census. WHY GARRISON'S GUNS? (David Bolin), Rods don't cast tailing loops, people cast tailing loops. Garrison Model 193 6.8 ft 4 wt; Garrison Model 212 8 ft 6 wt; Garrison Model 221 8.8 ft 7 wt; George Maurer 7042 7-4 7 ft 4 wt from George's rodmaking class. Can someone clear my thoughts. At first glance it looks horrible, but it could be interesting to build to see what it actually casts like. ↳   Rod making, restoration, repairs and discussion on those related topics concerning bamboo rods. or 202 or 202 E 7” 5wt. WHY GARRISON'S GUNS? Garrison 212. This guide covers all the different transmog sets you can get from Garrison buildings! Cigar style cork grip,wrapped with a ruby red wrap not color locked with a candy apple translucent effect. It is a modified Partridge of Reddich taper that will hum out 70' plus of line without effort. Some said that it takes larger changes over a number of stations to make anything really be felt. 2014-10-01 15.45.28.jpg 11' Spey 400-430grain, 3pc, Hollowed - Personal Taper. (Larry Blan). Top Rod: Garrison (modified) Full Flex taper flamed cane 8' 3/2 4wt DT line Bottom Rod: Wm Mills taper 7 ½ 2/2 2 or 3 DT line, Full Flex. Garrison definition, a body of troops stationed in a fortified place. are good examples of small stream fly rods. (Ren Monllor). (Bob Norwood), Tips Home - What's New - Tips - Articles - Tutorials - Contraptions - Contributors - Search Site - Contact Us - Taper Archives See more. I see you were up late last night and figured you’d wake us up a bit….. My thoughts…I think that it would be close in feel, but not identical. Post 15    106                    101 But what about the smaller 193. thanks. So I accept that it would likely deflect the same as the original. Don brought out his 6' 9" non-staggered Garrison 193 taper, 3 weight. The same or different and WHY? 2014-10-01 15.44.55.jpg Built on hardsec security patterns, our threat elimination platforms deliver unparalleled security, performance and scale. 2. You can see that in the deflection chart at the following photo. Gierach Clark Best 8652 8.5 ft 5 wt 8'6" for 5 wt. Casts a 3 or 4 wt line with grace. And a lot of folks said NOTHING, it's hard to believe that there aren't more maker with opinions on tapers. Close up of photo 1 rods. I'll try and summarize the answers I got as I understand them: One point that was not mentioned was that the ZZ outside taper length is longer than the smooth one, which could mean that the ZZ actually has more power  fibers thus it's a stronger rod, maybe. 55    206                    201 You are right about the .010 between stations but it's only .005 between the center line and I still feel that the bamboo fibers will average the stress out. The first I sold as a used rod to a customer who 'had to have it' and I built another 'cause I 'had to have it'. Christmas Missives - Chat Room - Photo Galleries - Line Conversions - The Journey - Extreme Rodmaking - Rodmaker's Pictures - Donate - Store. The chart also includes a 10% scenario. The ones I have are built by AJ and Art Weiler and are well built and in the Garrison tradition very understated. A good caster can make a rod bend just about anywhere they want. About. Dedicated to open flame, wafting smoke and the highest quality meats, seafood and local produce available, this Modern American Grill House is an ideal place for culinary exploration. Rod Design - Taper Variations, < Home < Tips Area < Rod Design < Taper Variations. by Tom Smithwick » 03/04/07 14:38, Post So, I thought I would ask a question that I have not been able to solve short of building the tapers and it might just have to come to that. You know it's funny but I haven't heard much discussion about actual tapers for quite a while. Link: Garrison 193 Taper Blank i Captain Garrison served as a First Lieutenant in the First Regiment, Texas Mounted Volunteers during the Civil War. 30    144                    149 $150.00 Price: Everett Garrison was regarded as one of the world's great bamboo rodmakers and will be remembered for all time in Fly Fishing American Folklore! If you live in New England and like cane, you should go out of your way to make the drive next year. Garrison 204E. (Jim Lowe). Since this was all bamboo day I would have been embarrassed to show up with mere graphite. 1       63                       63 (Al Baldauski). It would seem counterintuitive. I think if one rod has a bunch of hinges, you'd be able to feel that as you progressively stress the rod when you test your loop control at different line lengths. On a more effortless cast you probably won’t be kicking in the hinges. You've taken a basically straight (OK, shoot me, progressive) taper and made it into one with a series of fast and slow spots, shoulders followed by hinges if you will. Having cast Jerry's rods, I would have to agree. 80    270                    270, The only thing I have done is sequenced the station numbers for #2 by added or subtracted 5 thousandths making the taper Zig Zag. Some said that the two tapers will feel the same, since the zig zag ones weight will average out to be same as the smooth one. My own copy is serial number 003, the oldest of my rods that I still own. Of course,  smaller changes at a tip are more significant. A day of fishing with one of Mr. Garrison’s smaller rods is pure pleasure, whether you catch a fish or not! What is your thoughts on the standard taper. Garrison #193 Bamboo Blank. 6′9″ long 2 piece/2 tips 3 weight, flamed and heat-treated. I think it was Steve who pointed out that there is a stress peak at the 20" mark. Garrison may be named for an early settler, Captain Zadock Bonner "Zed" Garrison (April 20, 1829 – January 9, 1909). Garrison 201. I will be putting a order in the next few months for the 193 taper. Just ‘detecting bad’ is no longer enough.Garrison’s model is different. That would make me a bit uneasy, as I suspect that is a critical area, My guess is that that would maybe produce a tailing loop if the rod was really loaded up, but I suppose that's a question of degree. Some wondered about the transfer of power down the rod, on this, I would offer up all the rod tapers which have changes similar to this, some of the more famous ones. He had them at the Metolius Bamboo Rod Fair in Camp Sherman, OR, this past July, and I expect he'll have them there again this coming July. It is a true midge rod, and starts to slow down with bushy dry flys over size 16. (Bob Norwood), I think they will definitely feel different, more so if made from the same culm. 70    270                    270 If one rod has a different maximum stress (as Jerry's did) you can definitely feel that. CONTACT INFO. The way that I look at tapers and lines is that a good rod should handle three line sizes, thus small changes are just that, and have little influence on the rod. I would like to believe that for me Feel or Touch is a much more sensitive than say my sight (I’m extremely nearsighted). For a Fly angler who is wanting a bamboo rod with the distance punch of graphite. If you build it, please let us know what it's like. Garrison 201E. 5       70                       70 I charted the taper, and as you know, a snake would break it's back trying to follow the line. We've also developed a Garrison Timer App on Android and iOS - the latest version integrates with an in-game QR code generator so you can scan your missions instead of inputting them manually! Presently listed on Ebay. I have a Garrison 193 built by Rick Cunningham in like new condition that I would sell. ↳   Ephemera, empherma and Ephemerella..... ↳   Photos, paintings, written stories and talents. Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update-Garrison & Garrison continues to practice all safety precautions laid out by the CDC with regards to COVID-19. (Jim Lowe). Garrison Guitars was a guitar manufacturing company originally founded by Chris Griffiths in Canada in 1999. What do you think? This may result in a slightly different feel, but I doubt it. I have seen too many tapers with sharp stress peaks like these to feel that they really get to values that are anything like the graphing shows. The taper is a bit slower feeling than the other Garrisons, but it is not wimpy or tricky to cast. by bluejayee » 03/04/07 22:40, Post He made a series of rods, starting with the same taper (8' 5 wt, .013/5" or so), and then using Max Satoh's program (dynamic deflection) built one series with the maximum stresses of 180k, 200k, and 220k; a second series where the peak stress (180k) was at 10", one at 15", one at 20", and a third arm where the length of the peak varied (IE. I am sure he could tweak the taper to make the high point stress the same and the question would remain. Garrison 206. 45    181                    176 I know my terminology is awful compared to an engineers, but please bear with me. It is an interesting exercise, especially given the different stress diagrams the tapers generate – although the overall shape of the graphs are similar, the peaks and troughs of the hinges/shoulders obviously register quite differently in the snaky one . Especially in the tip. I think I have a Garrison 212 in the shop if I do, I will make a 212 taper with the zig zag and we will try it out. Here is Lt. Col E.L. Morton casting what I call the grass rocket. Some of the changes were subtle but you could feel the differences when cast side by side. I also feel that, if we just averaged the taper over these areas that no one could tell the difference between the rods. As you progress toward level 100, you’ll open up the opportunity to create your very own Garrison—one of Warlords of Draenor’s biggest new features. (Jim Lowe), I think Jerry’s experiment is a different kettle of fish to Bob’s. 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